Udio CEO Andrew Sanchez Says AI Music’s Future Is Quality, Not Volume
Udio CEO Andrew Sanchez sat down with Music Business Worldwide founder Tim Ingham on Tuesday morning May 19, 2026 to outline the of Udio's new "walled garden" product launching later in 2026. Music Business Worldwide
In the walled-garden architecture, users will generate songs only in the style of opted-in artists with no off-platform export capability for the music they create. This is the direct opposite of the Suno architecture Warner Music separately licensed in 2025, which allows open distribution of generated outputs. Sanchez confirmed that Udio has now licensed with Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, Merlin, Kobalt, and Believe, with Sony Music Group as the one remaining major in active litigation against Udio after Udio admitted to scraping YouTube audio for AI training in its answer to Sony's lawsuit. The global AI music licensing environment is now bifurcating into a controlled-ecosystem licensed-AI tier (Udio, with walled-garden distribution controls and opt-in artist-style prompts) and an open-distribution licensed-AI tier (Suno, with Warner Music's license but no walled-garden control architecture). Sanchez also told MBW that AI attribution engines attempting to trace generated output back to specific training-data sources by percentage assignment are "a fantasy" because generative AI models do not work as sampling machines but develop abstract understanding through exposure, framing the only viable alternative as a "robot musicologist" that compares finished outputs against existing recordings rather than attempting to disaggregate the training corpus into percentage-share attributions.
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These two designs represent different answers to the same set of working questions about how generative-AI music should integrate with the existing recorded-music economy. The 'walled-garden' approach is built around the principle that control of distribution is the working precondition for sustainable licensing relationships. Sanchez said directly that "a highly controlled ecosystem is necessary for most rightsholders and artists to be comfortable with this extraordinary and potentially transformative technology" and described control as "the fundamental building block, particularly control over how songs are distributed." The open-distribution architecture is built around the principle that the AI-generated music output should flow into the existing distribution-and-streaming infrastructure on the same terms as human-created music, with the rightsholder-compensation framework operating as a backend royalty-allocation system rather than a front-end gating function.
The Sanchez Skepticism of AI Attribution Engines
Sanchez's argument is that generative AI models do not operate as sampling machines that grab pieces of existing recordings and stitch them together. Instead, they analyze large amounts of data and develop an abstract understanding of music through exposure, in the same way a small child develops the ability to distinguish music from other sounds through repeated exposure to music without explicit instruction. "The idea that you could assign a percentage of the output to something used in the training corpus just doesn't make sense," Sanchez told MBW. "If you started singing a new melody right now, you wouldn't be able to say, 'I've come up with this because when I was three I was exposed to this song, and when I was 11, I was exposed to this other song.' It just wouldn't work that way."
Sanchez's alternative framework, what he called a "robot musicologist" that listens to finished output and compares it against existing recordings, works at the output-similarity layer rather than the training-data-attribution layer. This distinction matters because the output-similarity layer can support a takedown-and-remediation model (an artist whose voice or style appears in a generated track can flag it for removal or relicensing), but it cannot support the granular per-track royalty-distribution model that indie artists rely on.
The Suno-Versus-Udio Fork and Implications on the Indie Streaming Strategy
"To be clear, we have a deal and a great relationship with Warner; we're super excited to partner with them and our other licensing partners," Sanchez told MBW. "But for the product that we are primarily focused on, control is absolutely elemental."
The Suno open-distribution plan means that AI-generated music outputs from Suno can flow into the existing streaming network on the same terms as human-created music.The indie distribution-and-streaming environment therefore has to consider the possibility that AI-generated content from Suno will continue to expand its presence inside the existing streaming infrastructure, with the indie sector's per-stream royalty math going against the AI-generated supply expansion on the same DSP terms.
The Udio walled-garden approach means that AI-generated music outputs from Udio cannot breach the existing distribution-and-streaming infrastructure at all, and the licensing economics are contained in the Udio subscription-revenue ecosystem rather than the broader streaming royalty pool.
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Primary Wave Music has acquired the interests in the album art collection of Aubrey "Po" Powell, co-founder of British design studio Hipgnosis (which produced the iconic album covers for Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and dozens of other foundational album-cover works across the 1960s-1980s rock-and-progressive-rock era) in a deal announced May 19, 2026 that gives Primary Wave control of the visual-IP underlying one of the most important catalogs of music-related visual art ever produced. Music Business Worldwide
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